Tuesday, February 5, 2008

Tragedies Versus Statistics

In a collection of essays by former Marxists called The God That Failed, poet Stephen Spender drew attention to his own hypocrisy in the matter:

"When I saw photographs of children murdered by the Fascists, I felt furious pity. When the supporters of Franco talked of Red atrocities, I merely felt indignant that people should tell such lies. In the first case I saw corpses; in the second only words. I gradually acquired a certain horror of the way in which my own mind worked. It was clear to me that unless I cared about every murdered child impartially, I did not really care about children being murdered at all."


From CWNews, Tragedies Versus Statistics

SB 1520 (2005) and closed minds

When confronted with the fact that the 2005 so-called "human cloning ban" bill co-sponsored by Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama (SB 1520), does no such thing, but rather mandates the killing of human clones after their production, here's the response of one individual who prefers to close his mind to truth, instead of follow his own advice and investigate the facts:


It bans cloning. You can't make a human by moving the embryonic cell to a uterus, and this bill mandates that you may not do this, no matter what the source of the uterus is. That is prohibition! Your understanding of the process is incomplete and convoluted. The NRTL's is too! I thoroughly believe that the NRTL's intent is to get you to vote Republican, and that they'll resort to playing stupid. What this bill says, in effect, is that it's not okay to allow people who can't have children to get them through embryonic transplantation [of a clone, legally produced under this bill]. It does not prohibit in vitro fertilization. It prohibits moving the embryo to any uterous.

I have no more time for this nonsense! I've already decided how I'm gonna vote. I'm voting for sanity and reason! There seems to be way too little of both.

Whatever it is, whether I agree with it or not, I don't wanna hear anybody's opinion. I don't wanna hear things about abortion, gun legislation, immigration, or anything. Don't send me yours. I won't send you mine. I can't deal with the stress. I have enough of my own.

All future correspondence relating to politics will go into my Ignore email folder for immediate deletion.

OK, demand thinking, then refuse to, and finally cut off intelligent discourse.



SB-1520 is an excellent example of crass missrepresentation; follow the fun!


http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:s.01520:
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Human Cloning Ban Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)
S 1520 IS
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 1520
To prohibit human cloning.
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
July 27, 2005

`Sec. 301. Prohibition on human cloning

`(a) Prohibitions on Human Cloning- It shall be unlawful for
any person or other legal entity, public or private--

`(1) to conduct or attempt to conduct human cloning;

On the face of it, this seems to vindicate the claim that the National Right to Life Committee erred in stating that Sens. Obama and Clinton support cloning via this bill. However, if you
continue with the text of the bill, you will find:

`(e) Definitions- In this section:

`(1) HUMAN CLONING- The term `human cloning' means implanting or attempting to implant the product of nuclear transplantation into a uterus or the functional equivalent of a uterus.


You see the obvious point that the National Right to Life Committee has made, that this bill, in spite of it's name, does no such thing as ban cloning of humans; it renames "human cloning" to "nuclear transplantation" and then redefines human cloning to something that it is not (Orwell's 1984 is just behind schedule). When all is said and done, the bill simply demands that there be no attempt for clones not be brought to birth by any means; there is no prohibition on cloning, because cloning has been redefined to exclude the actual process of cloning! the only thing prohibited is so-called "reproductive cloning."

In point of fact, this bill expressly permits the creation of cloned human beings:


`(b) Protection of Research- Nothing in this section shall be
construed to restrict practices not expressly prohibited
in this section.

It effectively requires that they be killed. read this part very carefully, because this is the redefinition of what is actually human cloning; it is the slight-of-hand that is the establishment of a new legal-fiction:


`(3) NUCLEAR TRANSPLANTATION- The term `nuclear transplantation'means transferring the nucleus of a human somatic cell into an oocyte from which the nucleus or all chromosomes have been or will be removed or rendered inert.

Section 301(2) makes this painfully clear by prohibiting the creation of an interstate or export trade in clones created in the US for further gestation.


`(2) to ship the product of nuclear transplantation in
interstate or foreign commerce for the purpose of
human cloning in the United States or elsewhere; or

So in this bill, a clone is now "The product of nuclear transplantation."